How To Host A Party Without Lighting Yourself On Fire

We trade recent life updates that somehow include haircuts, sunburn, and multiple near disasters with fire. We also get into a lot of listener questions this week, which include discussion on travel, marriage, health habits, and the real conversations that make parenting feel less scary.

This episode includes:
• weekly catch up with hair changes and family plans 
• a streak of grill and yard work mistakes plus what we learn about rushing 
• chronically online pop culture moment with Billie Eilish and Justin Bieber 
• music discovery habits and how taste evolves in a relationship 
• word of the week: futz
• why one mic has a fuzzy cover plus the Canada travel question 
• advice on motivating a sedentary partner without taking ownership of their health 
• what we talked through before having kids including money and mental health 
• a listener note on friendship and being intentional over time 
• weather whiplash, AC timing, and Fahrenheit vs Celsius confusion 

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Transcript

Life Updates And Fresh Haircuts

SPEAKER_02 0:04

Sometimes you gotta live a little, you know? L-I-V-I-N. Isn't that what he says?

SPEAKER_04 0:11

It is. It is a little McConaughey reference off the bat.

SPEAKER_02 0:14

Oh, what is that from?

SPEAKER_04 0:16

I don't remember.

SPEAKER_02 0:17

Hmm.

SPEAKER_04 0:18

L-I-V-I-N.

SPEAKER_02 0:20

That's right, isn't it? But living? Yeah. Okay, I've never seen it.

SPEAKER_04 0:24

It's probably something he said, like out and about.

SPEAKER_02 0:27

Fair.

SPEAKER_04 0:28

He's kind of a walking soundbite half the time.

SPEAKER_02 0:30

What are you drinking today?

SPEAKER_04 0:31

I'm drinking an Alani. Same thing you're drinking. We need to be using the video of you opening these more because it looks like you're fighting for your life.

SPEAKER_02 0:41

I have a hard time opening things. My fingers don't hurt anymore when I'm opening stuff, so that's huge.

SPEAKER_04 0:46

I really I should go back and look at last week because it looked like you were about to cry when you opened it.

SPEAKER_02 0:51

I did feel like I was about to cry. I honestly I'm wondering if I'm gonna lose my fingernails still.

SPEAKER_04 0:57

TBD.

SPEAKER_02 0:57

TBD.

SPEAKER_04 0:58

We're on fingernail watch.

SPEAKER_02 0:59

People say like four to six weeks after you have it.

SPEAKER_04 1:02

That's cruel. That's that's rude because like you've that's long enough to really have moved on with your life. To be in the rearview mirror and then you're just like, oh yeah. My hands. I'm a yeah, I'm a monster.

SPEAKER_02 1:15

Not really a monster, just like Okay, that's not very kind to people who don't have nails.

SPEAKER_04 1:20

Oh yeah, sorry, y'all.

SPEAKER_02 1:22

Tell me about your week.

SPEAKER_04 1:23

We had a birthday party for one of the kids. I know it was busy. What else did we do?

SPEAKER_02 1:27

I had my lake launch.

SPEAKER_04 1:28

Oh, lake launch, yeah. Yeah, yeah, because we were recording in late gear. We could have done that again, I suppose.

SPEAKER_02 1:33

I am.

SPEAKER_04 1:34

We didn't bring the poster down to put in the background.

SPEAKER_02 1:36

I that's okay with me.

SPEAKER_04 1:38

You could have put it over Trust Your Gut.

SPEAKER_02 1:40

Uh or over the painting behind you.

SPEAKER_04 1:43

Or over the painting behind you. That would have made sense. And it would have been a picture of you behind me?

SPEAKER_02 1:48

I don't like that. I had never thought that we were gonna put it in here.

SPEAKER_04 1:52

Oh, I totally meant to put it in here for the recording.

SPEAKER_02 1:55

Oh, okay. I'm glad you did it.

SPEAKER_04 1:57

Temporarily. It wasn't gonna be a permanent installation.

SPEAKER_02 1:59

So Thursday night we had a celebration of the late collection launching for the sixth year at Riffraf, the store that I do the collaboration with. And two of the six years we've done these launch parties, because it's the only two years that I haven't been really pregnant or freshly postpartum, had the party, and they print these posters of a photo from the collection that is what two by three. It's not massive, but it's big enough.

SPEAKER_04 2:28

Yeah, I bet it's very close to our painting here in the background.

SPEAKER_02 2:31

It's bigger than that. Like substantially, Matt doesn't have good perception. I would love it's more like the one behind you.

SPEAKER_04 2:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:39

Anyway, I what?

SPEAKER_04 2:42

That's fair.

SPEAKER_02 2:42

Are you about to have to walk all the way to the house and get it to check this?

SPEAKER_04 2:47

No.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

Uh we took it after the event with us and we went out with friends afterward. And my friends were just carrying this poster around with them.

SPEAKER_04 2:56

That was a good bit though. That was fun. I got a haircut. I cut so much of my hair off. I think it's probably about an inch shorter than I thought it was gonna be. It's short, short. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:05

It looks really good.

SPEAKER_04 3:06

No, I'm I'm actually really happy with how it turned out. And I don't have the right to be upset when I have a haircut go like differently than expected. Because I usually walk in and I'm like, do your best. Whatever you think's gonna look good, do that.

SPEAKER_03 3:18

She did a really good job.

SPEAKER_04 3:19

She did a phenomenal job. I just tend to leave it up to the professionals. Yeah. And so you end you get what you get. And most of the time you get a really good idea.

SPEAKER_02 3:26

I'm glad you didn't go this short the first time you got it cut because I think it would have really freaked me out. But now I am good with it.

SPEAKER_04 3:34

Yeah, the first time I got it cut, it got cut really similar to like how I was wearing it several years ago. I haven't had it this short. I I bet it's been college at the very least. Because I I there are pictures of me from the end of college, like us tailgating, where I'm at my hair's pretty tight. It's uh honestly, it's the first time I've gotten a seasonally appropriate haircut though. Because when I got my hair cut back in the fall, it was just in time for winter to cut all my hair off.

SPEAKER_02 3:59

Got his haircut and then he burned the bejesus out of himself.

SPEAKER_04 4:02

I got a haircut and then I burned a little bit off the tips.

Sunburns And Grill Fire Stories

SPEAKER_02 4:05

Um, I was talking about your sunburn. Oh god, I wasn't talking about your grill burn. Okay, we actually have lots of things to update people on. This is the riveting stuff. I know that this is why you tune in to overthinking. Tell them about your initial burn.

SPEAKER_04 4:19

I went out and I was mowing, it was like 75 degrees out, it was perfect. I did not think about being in the sun, so I just was on the mower for hours and hours and working outside. And then I got to the end of the day and I was like, ooh, that's pretty red.

SPEAKER_02 4:34

You had a distinct tan line.

SPEAKER_04 4:36

I was also wearing a running singlet that like cuts in in the back. So a lot of my lat was exposed. So I had a really nice hourglass pale spot.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

Every single year I forget how quickly you tan and how dark you get. And so seeing you come in from an hour and a half of mowing and being that different of a color was just really scrawling.

SPEAKER_04 4:59

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 5:00

It was shocking. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:01

On to the next burn. Uh, it was the birthday party. We were grilling for everybody. Uh, had a bunch of people at our house. It was a one-year-old birthday that was mainly a party for adults with a smattering of children there. But one-year-olds don't know the difference. So that's the great part of birthdays at that age. You just do it up and you throw some cake at them, and the rest of it is just entertaining. But I was working the grill and I was using some starter fluid because it was doing a charcoal grill. And I didn't take the griddle out. I just kind of tried to squirt it past the griddle, didn't pull it off, landed on there, ignited super high, right into my face.

SPEAKER_02 5:37

Okay, wait, so the plate was in it?

SPEAKER_04 5:38

The yeah, the griddle.

SPEAKER_02 5:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 5:40

Like I should have moved the griddle out of the way so that the lighter fluid didn't went down to the charcoal in a norm, but instead it landed on top.

SPEAKER_02 5:49

I didn't, only one person at the party saw it happen. My back was to you.

SPEAKER_03 5:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:53

And our buddy saw it happen. He's like, uh, Joe, I'm pretty sure Matt just lit himself on fire. And I said, excuse me, because I turned around and you were playing it off like you were fine.

SPEAKER_04 6:03

I played it off immediately.

SPEAKER_02 6:05

And uh he's like, he's playing it off, but his hair and eyebrows were 100% just on fire.

SPEAKER_04 6:13

Yeah, it really flared up. It uh I had little gray crispy tips on the end. It looks like they were slightly frosted.

SPEAKER_02 6:20

It looks like you trimmed your eyebrows.

SPEAKER_04 6:22

Well, I mean, that might be the new way. No, all at once keeps them even. It did look the problem was I went in and I was like, oh yeah, the tips are singed. I could brush them, you know, I brushed all the the ash off.

SPEAKER_03 6:35

All the singed bits off.

SPEAKER_04 6:37

I did I did have a good joke later that night where I was like, does anybody else smell burned hair? Because I did have a faint odor of burned hair from from that event. But everything turned out fine. The burgers were good, hot dogs were good.

SPEAKER_02 6:51

The food was great.

SPEAKER_04 6:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:53

But this is where my trust issues come.

SPEAKER_04 6:57

Weird, yeah. Just a general lack of self-preservation.

SPEAKER_02 7:00

Well, do you want to go ahead and tell the other grill story that you have while we're here? Oh man.

SPEAKER_04 7:06

I uh yeah, that was when I used a gas can to try and speed the grill up. That there were some issues going on with the grill. It needed to be cleaned out, and so it wasn't starting well. And I got fed up with it, and I used gas. Using gas in your grill is a bad idea. It's very, very flammable uh and very light.

SPEAKER_02 7:25

I feel like probably not good to grill after on either.

SPEAKER_04 7:29

Yeah, you're gonna want to let it burn for a little bit. Get all get all the volatile, the VOCs.

SPEAKER_02 7:33

I don't think you were cook were you uh anyway, go on.

SPEAKER_04 7:36

Was I cooking that time? No, I didn't cook like right away. It took a long time to get it started. That was the problem. Or did we bail on it entirely?

SPEAKER_02 7:44

We bailed on it entirely. That's right. We ended up using the other. At this point, you were trying to clean the charcoal out, like you were trying to burn it really, really hot.

SPEAKER_04 7:52

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:53

Anyway, that's right. Irrelevant to what you're about to say.

SPEAKER_04 7:56

Regardless, I tried to use the gas can, it lit the gas can on fire. So all of a sudden there was a gas can sitting on the ground that just was like shooting a little small flame. On the ground. Well, it was in my hand, then I put it on the ground.

SPEAKER_02 8:07

You you you set it down on the ground, Matt? Okay, I dropped it. You dropped it on the ground and then kicked it. You didn't kick it, babe. You threw it.

SPEAKER_04 8:18

Oh, I flinged it? Yeah. I don't remember. It was a blur at the time. I guess you were watching it through the window. You probably should have told the story.

SPEAKER_02 8:26

Well, because I didn't know what was happening. So Matt's holding a little, it's like a what, a two and a half gallon.

SPEAKER_04 8:32

Yeah, a little guy.

SPEAKER_02 8:33

Uh, and it's shooting fire out of the end of it. It looks like a blowtorch, but it's a gas can. I'm like, oh, is that gonna explode? And then Matt literally overhand chucks it into the yard and the grass catches on fire, the can's on fire, it's rolling. Setting our lawn on fire, and then Matt is fighting for his life against our hose that's wrapped up. Oh trying to run out with the hose.

SPEAKER_04 9:00

It's so mad because the hose was all tangled. I can't really fluster when my mom's over. That was part of it.

SPEAKER_02 9:07

Um, that's a hundred percent it.

SPEAKER_03 9:09

Wait, okay, let's we'll stop after this, but tell while we're here, tell the other story of what happened when you were flustered when your mom was here.

SPEAKER_04 9:19

I backed into the garage door?

SPEAKER_03 9:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:22

Were we running later? What was going on? Why was I like your mom was just my mom was just over and I was we were going, or I was just going somewhere, I think.

SPEAKER_02 9:31

Nope, I was in the car.

SPEAKER_04 9:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 9:34

Because your mom was watching our kids.

SPEAKER_04 9:36

The problem is when I tell these stories, I was at a real heightened level. So my memory of it is not crystal clear.

SPEAKER_02 9:42

So Matt's mom came over to watch the kids because we had therapy or an errand. I have no idea. We weren't gonna be gone for very long. And our daughter wanted to come out and wave goodbye to us, and so we got in the car, and then Matt hit open on the garage, and it put the car into reverse and backed out right into the garage.

SPEAKER_04 10:05

Just I was trying to push it so tight to when the garage is high enough that I just clipped the bottom panel. It's the bottom panel that I hit with the top of the car. Sure. What you think I just backed into the closed garage door?

SPEAKER_02 10:19

Not closed, no, but it was not almost open. It was only like it was almost over the car.

SPEAKER_04 10:28

It wasn't though. So instead of waiting the extra second.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

So you know that the scratches from it are on my bumper? No. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 10:38

The bumper? That doesn't make any sense.

SPEAKER_02 10:41

Not to the story you're telling.

SPEAKER_04 10:44

Oh, anyway, I backed into the garage door, dented it, popped it off the track, had to pop it back into the track.

SPEAKER_02 10:50

It was a whole You know, the one thing is at least you know how to fix most stuff. That's true. That's true. I I did lay down the law that you are not allowed to mess with the garage door extensively. That is a professional job.

SPEAKER_04 11:03

Not the big spring. The big spring can kill you.

SPEAKER_02 11:05

No springs.

SPEAKER_04 11:06

Yeah, the springs, there's a lot of tension there. And don't mess around with tension. It's extremely dangerous.

SPEAKER_02 11:14

Fire, okay. Tension, no.

unknown 11:17

Fire.

SPEAKER_02 11:18

The fire makes me nervous too. Anyway.

SPEAKER_04 11:21

That's my highlight reel from like the last two years.

SPEAKER_02 11:23

Yeah. You really do when your mom is at our house.

SPEAKER_04 11:26

Get panicked, man. You become kind of a it's kind of a three stooges-esque routine, but it's just me. The one stooge.

SPEAKER_02 11:34

Well, and you're so smart, and generally speaking, I would consider you fairly calm. Anything happens, you stay pretty level-headed, you're practical. I don't feel like you make too many calculated risks, like, yeah, or risks in general, unless it's only you in harm's way, then all then all bets are off. But yeah, when your mom's here, it's I don't know who you are.

SPEAKER_04 11:58

And then I start cutting corners to try and be a little bit faster. Then I'm not thinking things through. What's the speed thing? I don't know, man. I just get nervous. I'm like, oh no, I'm trying to make everything better for my mom. I don't know. I'm just a little boy.

SPEAKER_03 12:13

Just a little boy again.

SPEAKER_04 12:14

Just a little boy again. All panicked. Trying to make sure everything's so so.

SPEAKER_02 12:20

Oh, that's funny.

SPEAKER_04 12:21

Yeah, I'd forgotten about the garage door. The gas can at least was semi, you know, top of mind since I had started another fire just this last week. Good times. Good times. All good stories. Everybody has made it.

SPEAKER_02 12:32

You have so many good stories.

SPEAKER_04 12:35

I have some good stories.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

I feel like you have good lore. Like as we get older, you will have funny stories to tell the kids and the grandkids and all this stuff. I've got nothing.

SPEAKER_04 12:45

You gotta start taking more risks. Okay. Live dangerously. No, thank you. Yeah. I have you tried fire. I have a pretty good track record with it in terms of good stories, haven't uh no catastrophic.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

You lit our front lawn on fire once.

SPEAKER_04 13:02

I did. Yep. I had I was curious if that was gonna come up, but yep. Doing yard work, which we also did this week. It's been a really serious week.

SPEAKER_03 13:12

A lot of stuff.

SPEAKER_04 13:13

Yeah, I started a fire. It was a leaf. We were burning off leaves, and I started.

SPEAKER_02 13:19

And I said, I would like you not to do that. I don't think it's appropriate weather for it. And Matt said, nah.

SPEAKER_04 13:26

It'll be alright. It'll be alright. And I started it when it was a little windy, and then it got real windy. And then I was in a fight for my life to try and extinguish this leaf pile before it blew burning leaves all across the yard.

SPEAKER_03 13:42

Thank God we don't live somewhere that has frequent burn bands. That's we have them sometimes, but not frequently.

SPEAKER_04 13:50

Yeah, this time it's also thank goodness I was burning next to a hose. There was some intent behind that, but I had to play firefighter for play firefighter.

SPEAKER_02 13:59

Well, and we know the response time from the fire department's not good.

SPEAKER_04 14:03

I think it's a lot better now.

SPEAKER_02 14:04

Oh, it is?

SPEAKER_04 14:05

Yeah, I think that was when it was like a strictly volunteer fire station.

SPEAKER_02 14:09

Our neighbor, uh, her mower had a part that was broken, and it was a dripping hot plastic off the lawnmower into her grass and lighting the grass on fire behind her as she drove her zero-turn lawnmower.

SPEAKER_04 14:25

Yeah, and she lit like a very large portion of it was just dropping like burning gobs of plastic every like 15 to 20 feet.

SPEAKER_02 14:33

And they were trying to get the fire out before it hit our outbuilding. Yeah, they were really panicked, but yeah. It took the fire department 25 minutes.

SPEAKER_04 14:41

40 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 14:42

40?

SPEAKER_04 14:43

Yeah, they had it completely handled by the time the fire 40 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 14:47

I thought it was 25, which is still so long for a fire to burn.

SPEAKER_04 14:51

Yeah, pretty sure it was 40.

Coachella Tears And Pop Culture

SPEAKER_02 14:53

That's crazy. I digress, I digress as well.

SPEAKER_04 14:57

Did you do anything online? Anything chronically chronically online.

SPEAKER_02 15:01

Uh, I know that we talked about Coachella last week, but we're bringing it back around.

SPEAKER_03 15:04

Ooh.

SPEAKER_02 15:05

Uh, the Beebs again. Oh, yeah. Second weekend headlining. And this week was really for the fans. And I know that you didn't see this. I've been weeping over it for two days.

SPEAKER_04 15:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 15:17

Uh are you familiar with One Less Lonely Girl?

unknown 15:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:22

Are you familiar with the concert concept? Uh what he does at the concerts. Does he bring somebody up? Uh-huh. Okay. Or used to like that was a thing in that. I remember that being a thing. Okay. So he'd bring up a girl, set her in the chair, and sing One Less Lonely Girl to her, and everybody like wanted to be that person.

SPEAKER_04 15:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:43

Okay. Are you aware of Billie Eilish's history with Justin Bieber?

SPEAKER_04 15:50

No.

SPEAKER_02 15:51

Okay. Billie Eilish is obsessed with Justin Bieber.

SPEAKER_04 15:55

That checks out.

SPEAKER_02 15:56

And has been since she was like a little girl. There's all this history and videos of her talking about Justin Bieber and how much she loves Justin Bieber.

SPEAKER_04 16:04

You say that I that does sound.

SPEAKER_02 16:07

And how she thinks he's the best. And there's an interview with her in 2019 where somebody asks, Well, what if you meet Justin Bieber? Like, do you want to meet him? And she's like, No, I don't, because I'm like a super fan and this and that. Well, then I think they met for the first time at Coachella however many years ago.

SPEAKER_04 16:28

Like performing?

SPEAKER_02 16:30

Not performing. Like they just met. And the story goes that uh Billy Eilish cried for like 10 minutes while Justin Bieber was just like rubbing her back or whatever while she like weeped, crying about uh meeting him for the first time. But they they ended up having a relationship and becoming friends. And anyway, uh Billy Eilish was in the audience watching the performance with Hailey Bieber and all of their friends. Sure. And then One Less Lonely Girl starts, and Haley Bieber pushes Billie Eilish over the like through the gate and has somebody take her up to be the One Less Lonely Girl. And she is truly like she's covering her face and she is weeping, crying at this Coachella performance that it was her. And that's my chronically online.

SPEAKER_04 17:25

Good old Billie Eilish.

SPEAKER_02 17:26

It was so good. I love her.

SPEAKER_04 17:28

Yeah, she's the best.

SPEAKER_02 17:29

I have like you were early on the Billie Eilish train, so that put me early on the Billie Eilish train.

SPEAKER_04 17:36

Was that my era of like trying to get music as soon as possible?

SPEAKER_02 17:40

Yeah, you were like, was it oceanize? Maybe it was something different.

SPEAKER_04 17:44

Oh, that might have been.

SPEAKER_02 17:45

But it was one of those that you were like, this is by like a 13-year-old girl, and it's insane. Or 14, I don't know. She was real like you were like, this is by a child, and it is so good, and she is like gonna have awesome stuff. Like this is badass. I remember you showing it to me and nobody knew who she was yet. You're right. That was back when you like did your I was I've never been able to tell you that I listened to somebody first, although another chronically online. I will get to that in a second. Um, but yeah, you were on the Billie Eilish train really early. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:21

I was I was a new music Tuesday and then it pivoted to Friday. But I was well, there was a period of Thursdays too. I think they went Tuesday, Thursday, Friday. I don't know. Doesn't matter. Well, it was Thursday night, that's what it was. I would be up at midnight.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

For Friday.

SPEAKER_04 18:37

Here we go. Yeah, I would just listen to anything I could find. iTunes really once you could listen to like 15, 30 second samples, that was that was my jam.

SPEAKER_02 18:50

You and I are big music people, there's always music playing in our house. And I you're 10 times a music person than I think we both are, but you're really you you're a much wider.

SPEAKER_04 19:05

Mine's eclectic. I I love a broad variety of music. You have a really strong concentration, and like you like what you like and you know what you know, and you do great with it. But your your genres that you span on your own, like you like lots of music, but what you go to is is narrower.

SPEAKER_02 19:27

RB.

SPEAKER_04 19:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:29

Rap. Hip hop.

SPEAKER_04 19:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:33

That's it.

SPEAKER_04 19:33

Pretty much. Anything else you'll acquire from me?

SPEAKER_02 19:36

Singer-songwriter, a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Every now and again.

SPEAKER_04 19:40

Yeah. No, I'll listen to almost almost anything. And so I've got more on that train now. I'm I think this will be a I'm I'm listening to a lot more music.

SPEAKER_02 19:52

I've noticed that. I really like it.

SPEAKER_04 19:54

It's when I switch by Vance.

SPEAKER_02 19:56

I uh think wait, I want to go back to my other thing. I think you're on a glow-up though.

SPEAKER_04 20:01

Just because I cut my hair?

SPEAKER_02 20:02

No.

SPEAKER_04 20:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 20:03

Not necessarily your appearance. I mean, your appearance is great. I'm not making commentary on that. I feel like you are on a glow up in terms of your overall feelings on yourself.

SPEAKER_04 20:16

I'm working on it. I'm trying.

SPEAKER_02 20:18

But I think it's I think you have been trying, uh-huh, and I think you're starting to reap reward from that.

SPEAKER_04 20:24

Oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 20:25

At least from my my perception.

SPEAKER_04 20:27

To double down on that, uh, I forget. Sometime in the last couple months, somebody said I'd look like Eric Dane. And this haircut is really making that. I keep looking in the monitor.

SPEAKER_02 20:36

Like Eric Dane?

SPEAKER_04 20:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:38

Interesting.

SPEAKER_04 20:39

I mean, he's significantly older than me, but.

SPEAKER_02 20:41

And isn't he like blonde and blue-eyed?

SPEAKER_04 20:43

He has white hair.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

Right.

SPEAKER_04 20:45

I think it's the structure.

SPEAKER_02 20:47

Oh. So I mean, that is a massive compliment. Really happy for you.

SPEAKER_04 20:52

The haircut is a little bit more aligned with his look.

SPEAKER_02 20:55

It's giving you more Eric Dane.

SPEAKER_04 20:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:57

You are very handsome.

SPEAKER_04 20:58

Oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 20:59

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_04 21:00

That's what I was looking for.

SPEAKER_02 21:01

Uh okay, the other thing I was gonna say for Chronically Online. Artists, oh, kind of. I saw a video online of this, which made me think of it. I was really early on the Cardi B train.

SPEAKER_04 21:12

You were, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 21:14

And I didn't even realize I was really early. I think that's the only artist I've ever been early to anything. But I liked her when her initial like mixtapes were coming out, and she was more of a personality online because she was on uh oh, what was the show called? There was a hip-hop reality show that she was on.

SPEAKER_04 21:36

And I can't Flave of Flaves.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

No, what was that called? I have no idea. I didn't watch it to be clear. I didn't watch it, I just saw clips from it. And so I was super, super obsessed with her though, starting in what, probably 2015, 2016?

SPEAKER_04 21:53

Something like that.

SPEAKER_02 21:54

Like late college, um, after graduation. And so when we found out she was gonna be performing at Memphis. In May, I begged Matt instead of going on a honeymoon if we could drive and see Cardi B the day after our wedding.

SPEAKER_04 22:06

Yep, that's right. That's right. And our plan was to do our honeymoon like six months later because you wanted to go to Australia. Yeah. And then COVID. Yep. And then travel wasn't such a good idea for next year. And so we've never really been on a trip like that together, just uh somebody asked me a couple weeks ago like what we did for our honeymoon. And I was like, we went to Memphis in May, but that wasn't really the plan. Like the plan was to do it later.

SPEAKER_02 22:28

Yeah, we did it.

SPEAKER_04 22:28

And they're like, what did you do since that didn't happen?

SPEAKER_02 22:31

I was like, uh We did a little staycation in Fentonville.

SPEAKER_04 22:36

So we have like a pretty tame honeymoon.

SPEAKER_02 22:38

Maybe our like 10-year anniversary, we'll do a trip together.

SPEAKER_04 22:42

That's kind of what I was thinking. I was like, we should probably celebrate to some degree that is more fitting.

SPEAKER_02 22:47

We're not good at that.

SPEAKER_04 22:48

No, we're not at all. It's a weakness of ours.

SPEAKER_02 22:51

And I would say I feel like for a lot of people, there's one partner that's good at it and one that's not.

SPEAKER_04 22:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:58

I think we're both.

SPEAKER_04 23:00

Yeah. We both kind of downplay some of that stuff more than we should. Like me especially.

SPEAKER_02 23:06

I don't know that I used to be that way, but I've definitely leaned that direction the longer we've been together.

SPEAKER_04 23:10

Suck the wind out of your sails, I suppose.

Word Of The Week Futz

SPEAKER_02 23:12

I don't know about that. No. Do you have a word of the week for us?

SPEAKER_04 23:15

Word of the week.

SPEAKER_02 23:16

Word of the week. Word of the week. Take a word. You teach it to Joe. Then she never uses it.

SPEAKER_04 23:26

How do you like the word futz?

SPEAKER_02 23:28

Futs? Mm-hmm. I futz with that.

SPEAKER_04 23:31

There you go. Futsing around.

SPEAKER_02 23:34

Can you s F U T Z?

SPEAKER_04 23:38

Nailed it.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

FUTS.

SPEAKER_04 23:39

FUTTS.

SPEAKER_02 23:41

I kind of like that.

SPEAKER_04 23:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:43

What does it mean?

SPEAKER_04 23:44

Instead of starting his chores, he decided to futz with his collection of old coins.

SPEAKER_02 23:49

Like play?

SPEAKER_04 23:50

Just like mess around. Mess around. Past time idly. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 23:55

Like I futz around in the car when I get in the garage.

SPEAKER_04 23:58

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, you just kind of sit there for a while.

SPEAKER_03 24:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:02

Really, you're like futzing on your phone. Yeah. Or is it futz with? Maybe it's futz with. Futs around? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:10

I like that.

SPEAKER_04 24:11

I've been aiming for more words that's like applicable.

SPEAKER_02 24:14

I could use that.

SPEAKER_04 24:15

Rather than there's just like out there words. But I don't remember.

SPEAKER_02 24:20

Just some emails. I know we've got a lot of emails. I don't know if we have any voicemails, but I know we have text messages and I know we have emails.

SPEAKER_04 24:26

We have voicemails too.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

Let's see what people have for us to overthink on this week.

SPEAKER_04 24:32

Okay. All right.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

Hey Joe and Matt. My name's Letitia. Um, I have been a listener for quite a while, so happy that you guys are back. Love the pod. Um, I just have a big serious question here. Why does Matt have the fuzzy gray thing over his mic? And why do you not, Joe? Anyway, I don't know why. Every time I watch the pod, uh I always think about that. Also, recently you had commented that your top followers were all Canadian. Um, and I'm from Nova Scotia, Go Canada. And I'm just curious, have you guys ever planned or have you been to Canada? Do you plan on traveling to Canada? Um, would you ever go to the East Coast where I'm at? Maritimes are pretty cool. We've got a lot of different things to see. And uh anyway, love you guys. Love the pod. Keep doing it, keep it up. Bye.

SPEAKER_02 25:28

I would love to go to Canada. Yeah. Another thing that we were supposed to do going into 2020 because your job was supposed to take you to Canada in 2020.

SPEAKER_04 25:37

That's correct.

SPEAKER_02 25:38

And it didn't because COVID. Nope. So I've never been. I'd like to go. I'd like to take the kids. I have multiple like mutuals and internet friends that are in Canada too.

SPEAKER_04 25:49

At this point, we have so many people in so many places. I feel like we have to do like two and a half weeks in Canada or something.

SPEAKER_02 25:56

Well, we probably want to do different trips where we hit different parts of Canada.

SPEAKER_04 25:59

Okay. It's not like a tour of Canada. No, that seems like country.

SPEAKER_02 26:04

Well, the thing is, if we lived in Australia and we were coming, that's how we would do it. But we live in America.

SPEAKER_04 26:10

That's fair.

SPEAKER_02 26:11

So it seems kind of like it's not like we'd be like, oh man, we have friends in California and Minnesota. I guess we'll hit Minnesota and then fly over to California, you know.

SPEAKER_04 26:22

Yeah, now that you're saying it out that's not any different to do. It does sound really dumb now that you said it in that in terms that my American mind can comprehend. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 26:30

I don't I don't think it's dumb. I just it's a little dumb. It's pretty it's pretty dumb.

SPEAKER_04 26:35

Yeah. Again, because it is a country bigger than ours. It'd be like, well, California, and then I'll go pop over to New York.

SPEAKER_02 26:42

Um it depends on where you're going. Yeah. There's not as much north to south. They're all kind of the same.

SPEAKER_04 26:50

Oh, yeah. Yeah. You can't too far north, there's not as many people.

SPEAKER_02 26:54

Because I actually saw this thing. Wait, I'm about to get so off, but I'm gonna say it anyway. I saw a thing this week about in the comment section, people were talking about how Americans don't have passports, and there were Canadians in the comment section being like, yeah, like 70% of Canadians, that's not right. I have no idea what it is, to be so clear. They might not be right either. So uh 70% of Canadians have their passports, and we also, you know, I don't know, have to pay for that. I don't know. I like it was a whole thing. There was a Canadian being sassy, and people were like, Yeah, most of you live within two hours of the US border or whatever. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 27:36

Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

And so you can travel in and out of yeah, because I think what it was was the TikTok I was watching was about a European talking about how it's crazy Americans don't have their passports, and then an American was responding and trying to explain the geography of the United States, and then the Canadian was trying to be like, but we live it, and our country's even bigger than yours.

SPEAKER_04 27:59

I know. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 28:00

People are like, yeah, but you only live in a portion of the landmass, whereas United States citizens live well through all 50 states.

SPEAKER_04 28:08

That's a good point.

SPEAKER_02 28:10

Anyway, uh not to just go off on a total tangent.

SPEAKER_04 28:13

Um, but they're asking about the chinchella. Fuzzy things.

SPEAKER_02 28:16

I have my own chinchella now.

SPEAKER_04 28:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:18

Matt got me one.

SPEAKER_04 28:19

So I had a, especially on the last podcast when we used the the big mics, I had a lot of breathing noises because I have a deviated septum and I have a noisier. Yeah. My whole face makes sounds that aren't good for listening to in headphones. So I put this on there to break up some of those sounds. It's softer, it's a windscreen basically. And then you didn't really need one the same way.

SPEAKER_02 28:48

No, but I didn't like that they didn't match.

SPEAKER_04 28:50

Yeah. So it also bothered her. You were like, I'm fine with the one I have, and then eventually we we paired them up so they matched.

SPEAKER_02 28:57

Great question. That is a good question. Great eye.

SPEAKER_04 28:59

Keen eye. That's the whole story. It's not a not a great one, but it's it exists. Let's go for another one.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

Another voidus mail. It doesn't work.

SPEAKER_04 29:12

Somebody's asking for podcast recommendations. Do you have similar to ours or whatever?

SPEAKER_02 29:16

No, I don't listen to anything. I would recommend looking at what Apple recommends to you. That makes me sound like I'm being rude, I feel like, and I'm not trying to be. Have you asked chat? I hate when people refer to it as chat. Like, I have learned that about myself because you were like, well, I just asked chat, and I'm like, I hate that.

SPEAKER_04 29:37

I always think people are making more of a reference to like Twitch chats when they're saying that.

SPEAKER_02 29:41

But I think that's how anti-AI I guess we are. Yeah.

Movement Advice For A Tired Partner

SPEAKER_04 29:44

It's more like I just hear it, I've heard both referred to, but it I suppose with yeah, that's ridiculous. Here's an email. Hi, Joe and Matt. I need a little bit of advice on my high inertia husband. That's branding that Joe absolutely hates, but I'm sorry, it's starting to grow on me.

unknown 30:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 30:02

Last summer he started a new job where he works from home and has to be at a desk for eight hours a day. He doesn't work out at all, so I'm worried about his health because he's so sedentary. I know if he had more movement in his life, not only would his physical health be better, but his mental health as well. We've talked about it, and he always expresses that he wants to be more active and says I should help motivate him. But when I ask him if he wants to work out, he normally seems annoyed, and I feel like I'm just nagging him. I've tried offering to work out with him, getting him a walking pad for his desk, joining a basketball league, but none of it really seems to interest him. For more context, we have 11-month-old twins who still don't sleep through the night, so I know he's not at 100%. We also don't live near a gym or live on a walkable road. Any advice to encourage him to incorporate some healthy movement in his day, or should I just accept that he's in a sedentary season of life and let him find his own way to healthy habits?

SPEAKER_02 30:48

Not your job. Not your job. Uh yeah, no, the last one.

SPEAKER_04 30:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:00

Because if I'm needing to nag you, that means you're not doing what you're supposed to be doing, and I am taking action from there if it's important to me. If that's really important to you, that he is incorporating more physical movement and you're worried about his health, and he is then not moving forward doing that. There are two options, you know. The option that it seems I would go with is just the season that we're in.

SPEAKER_04 31:26

Yeah, I think there is some degree, like, especially given your 11-month-old sleeping circumstances.

SPEAKER_02 31:31

Like that's that's a hard season.

SPEAKER_04 31:33

It's a tough season to start working out in the little bit of defense. What I will say is something that may be motivating to some degree, especially as they get older. If he won't choose to work out for himself, setting that example for your kids and letting them see you be active, you take care of yourself is super important for them to pick up those same habits. Like anything you want them to do with their life, you should be showing them some example of it and proving because you can't just tell kids to do stuff. We've said that many times, but you have to lead by example. There's really no way to it's it's awful. Like the number of things where I try to tell them, you know, to act a certain way, and I don't successfully act that way frequently. Obviously, it doesn't take. They're like, Well, Dad, you do that all the time. Right, they don't say that, but when the example is set, obviously that's what they're gonna reflect. But an active lifestyle is the same as any of those other behaviors, and it's very similar to the way we talk about you investing your friendships and your own relationship. They see that and they have an understanding of, oh, mom's gonna go do her thing. There is not this, oh no, they they miss you. But they're not there's not a our house doesn't fall apart, they don't they're like, yeah, it's okay, got it. Love you, mom. See you in the house.

SPEAKER_02 32:52

Mom has friends too.

SPEAKER_04 32:53

Yeah, but there's many things that I have had to approach that way. When I struggle with self-worth and struggle with motivation, understanding that in that season, I might have to do it for the people around me, and especially my kids, because I do feel very obligated to them and we brought them in this world. It's our responsibility to make sure we take care of them.

SPEAKER_02 33:12

And maybe to soften what I said a little bit, I do think that walks and things like that can be incorporated into your day-to-day life, or choosing activities on the weekends that get you up and moving and walking, whether that's going to the farmer's market and taking a lap, or going to the park, or playing playing catch in the yard, or they were saying they don't have a great walkable space where they are.

SPEAKER_04 33:37

And so, but I think that like drive to a park. Yeah. It's just like clearly it's gonna be more of a a trip or an involved.

SPEAKER_02 33:46

Well, that's the thing about health. Like the way that our communities are built are all to make that less accessible. Yeah. So you have to work at incorporating it. If you're not somewhere that you can walk, if I I'm assuming that if you're somewhere where you feel like you can't walk, yeah, they say they're not on a walkable road and that they don't have a gym nearby. But can you go outside and play catch? Like can you throw a ball back and forth? Can you because little things like that add up to a much better balanced lifestyle? Yeah. Because like I've said in the past, I don't like working out. I do not. And I try to incorporate as much just movement and active chores and responsibilities as I can rather than a really hard-hitting fitness routine.

SPEAKER_04 34:40

As opposed to me trying to beat my own body to death. The other thing I would say is, and this really shouldn't be on you, but if you force the issue or start something, even if there's a bad attitude, it's worth maybe possibly getting the ball rolling, especially if that is a high inertia person, like you've done that before with me. You've signed me up for a few years ago.

SPEAKER_02 34:58

I signed Matt up for a class.

SPEAKER_04 34:59

You signed me up for yoga, and then I went to yoga three times a week for years.

SPEAKER_02 35:03

And then I signed you up with the fitness instructor that you see now.

SPEAKER_04 35:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:08

And you were so mad at me.

SPEAKER_04 35:10

Uh yeah. I was I was very pouty.

SPEAKER_02 35:13

You were really, really upset with me. I paid a bunch of money.

SPEAKER_04 35:18

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

So he felt like he had to go.

SPEAKER_04 35:21

Yep. I was like, well, we can't waste it. It would be really stupid.

SPEAKER_02 35:24

Then you've been going for six years.

SPEAKER_04 35:26

And there's because to some degree, there is this feeling of like, oh, I'll be ready later. And that feeling will never change unless you actually start something. And in fact, the more sedentary you stay, the less likely you're gonna feel ready. And so if the it is a person in the same vein as myself, just getting that push, because even after that first time, you can be like, okay, I do feel better. I'm glad I did that, and that can get the ball rolling. It shouldn't be on you.

SPEAKER_02 35:54

And I'm, you know, I feel bad often when I have to well, and to be clear, that's probably why I had such a quick response to be like, not your responsibility. Because you've Because that's I have to actively tell myself it's not my job. Because I am somebody that wants to fix everything and solve and everything goes. Everything's good and everybody's good, and everybody has what they want. So the reason I'm so quick to say that is because that's what you have to tell yourself. That's what I have to tell myself. It's not my responsibility, it's not my responsibility.

SPEAKER_04 36:26

And that is at a fundamental level true. I hope that's good advice. Yeah, I don't know how helpful.

SPEAKER_02 36:31

We tried.

SPEAKER_04 36:32

Yeah. I don't dislike the walking pad or something, something that you can I love to walk. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:38

I'm I'm big on the team walk.

SPEAKER_04 36:41

Good luck to you.

SPEAKER_02 36:42

Also, it's gonna get easier if you have babies that are not even one yet. That's a tough season as a whole. Just want to say that.

SPEAKER_04 36:52

Yeah, what the sleep is important to that. And I still don't nail that, but I'm at least more active these days. Do you want to read one?

How We Talked About Kids

SPEAKER_02 37:01

Sure. Longtime listener here since day one. Thank you. I have written in a few times. First time was about breaking up with my long-term boyfriend. I did it, and the best decision for myself, so lots of love there. Anyways, I've been with my fiance for a little over three years now. We've talked about kids, and it has been a yes answer from both of us. But the more we talk about it, the more ready I am, and the more unsure he feels. He's nervous about passing on bad traits, depression, anxiety, and of course the big one, money. What conversations did you have prior to kids to make you feel more at ease with a set decision and when? I know feeling ready doesn't necessarily exist. Just wondering on some conversation tips. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 37:43

As to the bad habits, I don't like calling them bad habits. There are some I'm perfect. Well, absolutely, of course. That's why I just hope they get all of yours. There are some things that are potentially hereditary, but so much of that is because of how you handle raising your children and talking about them with it as they grow up and making sure they understand that you're not a perfect person or that you have flaws and that you're working on them and that they aren't fixed.

SPEAKER_02 38:11

I don't know. I always get nervous to speak on all of that because we have babies.

SPEAKER_04 38:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:17

We have little, little kids. We do not have uh bona fide results of parenting yet. And so we can talk all day about what we're doing, what we're hoping's right, what we're trying to pass down, what examples we're attempting to set, but we don't know what the result is or how our kids will feel like. Right. Um, I will say that from my research and understanding, it is so much more about being aware of those things about you and being open to having conversations about that stuff and being open for constructive feedback and listening to your kids' perspective. We're just entering that phase. Yeah. And things that we talked about before, we definitely talked about money. We talked about what we wanted to be able to provide for our kids and what was most important. I know things that we talked about is I wanted them to be able to have their own rooms when they were teenagers. I wanted to be able to help them after high school, whether they choose to go to college or to pursue a personal passion or whatever it is. I want to be able to financially help them in some capacity reach those goals. And I expressed to Matt that that was really important to me. I know that we both worked really hard because we wanted to be in a place where we had money set aside and saved, and that we felt like we were in a good place with our mental health. I feel like we were.

unknown 39:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:56

And what I'll say is all of that changes once you have kids. There are still money stressors at times for us. And there are there have been major mental health struggles since having kids, especially for me. Like I feel like that. You've really had things too. I'm not trying to minimize. Whereas I feel like having kids really, I thought I had a really strong foundation. Yeah, you've taken some real like and having kids like pulled the sheet right out from under me and made me realize maybe my foundation wasn't built on things that I thought it was. And so that's been a journey. And the thing is you just kind of figure it out as you go. So I'd say most important is making sure that you're doing it with somebody you want to do it with.

SPEAKER_04 40:50

I would agree with that. Uh there's so much more nurture than nature, and there's exceptions. There's always exceptions, and so not to speak universally, but there's a lot you can do in terms of growing with them and showing them how to work on things. And if that's encouraging and creates optimism, as for the expense part of it, I mean everything's expensive, but like it's totally rational to be like, yeah, that's not in the budget, or that's a I think a realistic concern for most or a lot of people right now. Hope things improve. But in terms of the mental health side of things, there's a lot that you can do, even if you aren't at your best the whole time.

SPEAKER_02 41:32

I think it's good for kids to see you not at your best. Not that you want to stay not at your best. And I don't want to create uncertainty that they feel like they can't rely on you as a parent or anything like that. But I also think that it's really important for kids to see you work through things and to experience discomfort and see how you handle those things and see you ask for help and see you care for one another. Because something I express to you a lot is they're watching us and how we interact with one another way more than how they're watching how we tell them to interact or how we interact with them.

SPEAKER_04 42:09

Yeah. Well, especially as they get older, they can definitely relate to not being at their best. They are they are children and they're not at their best plenty of the time. And so it gives you some relatability to be like, yeah, dad struggles with those feelings, you struggle with those feelings, and here's what we can do. Right. Yeah. Good luck to you.

Friendship Praise And Weather Talk

SPEAKER_00 42:29

Hi, Joe and Matt, long time listener. This might be my second call I've made into the show. But I just wanted to say, Joe, from an outsider looking in, thinking about your conversation around friendship, I feel like you are such a good friend. And the friendships that you have are so genuine and true. And I know we only see like a fraction of your life, but I just wanted to let you know that when I think of the friend I want to be, I think about some of the things that you've mentioned before, about keeping in touch and being intentional and calling and all the stuff that I fail at. So even though you feel like friendship is hard, and I'm sure it is because it's also very hard for me, just from the outside looking in, you are kind of a friendship inspiration and role model for me at least. And I'm sure other people feel that way too.

SPEAKER_02 43:26

I'm gonna cry.

SPEAKER_04 43:27

That was really nice.

SPEAKER_02 43:28

That was really, really nice. I don't remember what I said. I would have to listen back to know what I said, but I I know that the last couple of months I've expressed a lot now that I feel like I'm back in my body in some capacity, being on an antidepressant and all these things that I'm realizing I've let a lot of my friendships maybe fall through the cracks in ways that I would want. And so that's really kind. And also, I would say that it reflects the pieces that I share. I was at dinner with friends recently and I expressed that. Same sentiment, and they all looked at me like I was crazy. They were like, Yeah, you need to cool it.

SPEAKER_04 44:06

That's exactly how I'm like, I'm with the color. You sound crazy, and being like, Yeah, I've really not done well with that. You're not doing well with it is a lot of people's good.

SPEAKER_02 44:16

It's something I have really struggled with, I don't think in my own actions, but maybe in being treated the way I want to be treated as a friend. So I take it really seriously how I engage because of that.

SPEAKER_04 44:29

Yeah, I but you hold yourself to a very high standard with that. And you do a really I mean, I think that's admirable to be like, this is how I'd want to be treated, and this is how fully I would like to be treated, and I'm going to invest that into as many people as I can. Like that's again admirable.

SPEAKER_02 44:44

I love people. You do, and you really show it, and that's I I am an extrovert to the max.

SPEAKER_04 44:50

It's very cool. That was just a compliment again.

SPEAKER_02 44:53

So yeah, that was nice.

SPEAKER_04 44:54

All right, one more question. How many months of the year is your AC on? I'm from Alberta, Canada, and we still have a foot of snow on the ground. I love it here, but our winters are so long. Just trying to wrap my head around how you're already using your AC.

SPEAKER_02 45:06

Well, our AC is still broken, correct?

unknown 45:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 45:10

So we're not using it right now. Uh, what would you say? May through September? So May, June, July, August, five months of the year?

SPEAKER_04 45:20

Yeah, depending on how late summer goes and all that.

SPEAKER_02 45:23

The fact that people still have a foot of snow. I've had lots of people send that to me because I've been posting gardening stuff.

SPEAKER_03 45:29

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

And they're like, oh, I want to be doing that. And we have a foot of snow. And that blows my mind because I don't think of us as living somewhere overly warm. Like we very much get all four seasons here. Like we get snow and we build snowmen and we do that in the winter. And then in the spring, we have a very normal spring, and then the summer it gets hot, and we're out on the lake, and we do the boat, and then the fall we have gorgeous color. Like it is a true three months of each kind of season thing going on. I know that it's been a little weirder with global warming in the way extremes are changing, but all in all, I still feel like we get all of them.

SPEAKER_04 46:07

Well, and I it's we've been very lucky that we had our AC issues when we did, because we had one or two days of super unseasonably warm, like 20 degrees high. Record breaking. Yeah, record-breaking heat. And then we've had beautiful weather ever since. So we've been in a season where our AC would not run or barely run in a season where we don't have it.

SPEAKER_02 46:30

Because we've not had it for what, a month now?

SPEAKER_04 46:32

Yeah, we're we're coming up on a month of it not working. He came back last week, replaced a thing that he thought was broken, and was like, uh, bad news, buddy. It wasn't that. It was the thing that I was like 95% sure it's not this. And he came back and was like, uh, five percent. Sorry. So no big deal. He's great, very much appreciate him. And I think if it had been a more serious or we would have had a little bit faster resolution. No, no. Let me tell you, if it had been in July, we'd have been pressing the the issue. But I'm like, I don't care. It's 71 degrees.

SPEAKER_02 47:02

And I think you and I are also very laid back when it comes to that stuff. Like, we work with a lot of small businesses and people that own their own businesses, and we're always like, prioritize who you need to first because we're okay. Yeah. Now, if it was scorching hot, I'd be like, we're the priority, we're dying with three children in here. But because that's not what's happening. I'm like, put us on the schedule when you can because that's the flexibility we can offer to. I don't know. I think that that's how you build community and that's how you get good service from people.

SPEAKER_04 47:32

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You treat people how you would want to be treated. And that includes uh with service, especially. Yeah. So also it's not like our AC would run a lot right now anyway.

SPEAKER_02 47:46

No, it wouldn't really run at all.

SPEAKER_04 47:48

No, it's we just open windows. Yeah, on a if a day does get up into the 80s, and especially if you're like hosting things, maybe you need it, but it's it's sporadic. We won't hopefully we won't need it for a little while.

SPEAKER_02 48:02

Unless it gets above 85 outside, yeah, we don't really run it.

SPEAKER_04 48:06

Nope.

SPEAKER_02 48:06

Fahrenheit.

Fahrenheit Vs Celsius And Goodbye

SPEAKER_04 48:08

I know that yeah, all of our people have been like Canada, so I'm like, I can't do Celsius that way.

SPEAKER_02 48:13

I know. I wish that I wasn't dumb. Yeah. I hate that I am not bilingual and that I use Fahrenheit.

SPEAKER_04 48:22

It's embarrassing. Yeah. I struggle with Celsius just because the upper temperatures just don't sound very different. There's a strength of Fahrenheit.

SPEAKER_02 48:32

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_04 48:33

There doesn't sound like there's a big difference between 15 degrees Celsius and 19 degrees Celsius, but that's like an eight degree swing, you know?

SPEAKER_02 48:42

Got it. All I know is zero is 32.

SPEAKER_04 48:45

Yes. And 100 is boiling.

SPEAKER_02 48:47

And what that makes so much more sense.

SPEAKER_04 48:50

It doesn't, it doesn't. It means you're living your life on a scale where boiling is that's where I struggle. Is like you don't actually have to worry about boiling that often. I think the strength of Fahrenheit is in the human temperature experience. In the weather experience. Yes. And the strength of Celsius is mass.

SPEAKER_02 49:06

What temperature are you supposed to be if you like check your human temperature in Celsius?

SPEAKER_04 49:12

You know you should look it up.

SPEAKER_02 49:14

Like if I don't, because I can't do 98.6 is the temperature in Fahrenheit, but that would be boiling. You would be boiling.

SPEAKER_04 49:24

You would be dead. Yeah. Yeah. 37.

SPEAKER_02 49:27

37.

SPEAKER_04 49:28

37 degrees Celsius.

SPEAKER_02 49:30

Okay. So a really beautiful day is in the upper 20s, lower 30s.

SPEAKER_04 49:35

Uh yeah, let's look. Again, I can't off the top. I'm not good at that. Yeah, 25 degrees Celsius is like 77.

SPEAKER_02 49:42

So 25 to 30 is where I want the temperature to be. Yeah, so I want it to be between 25 and 30 degrees Celsius outside. I'm gonna keep that locked in here so that when somebody asks me.

SPEAKER_04 49:56

I do like 25 and 77 because 77 is a temperature that really feels nice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:01

I'm not a hot weather girl unless we're on the water. If we're at the lake, I'm good with that. I love a sweatshirt.

SPEAKER_04 50:08

And the number of times you go outside in the high 70s, low 80s Fahrenheit. Um sorry again.

SPEAKER_02 50:16

In a sweatshirt.

SPEAKER_04 50:16

Yeah, when it's 25 to 30 degrees uh Celsius, I'm like, I can't.

SPEAKER_02 50:21

I'm always trying to wear a sweatshirt.

SPEAKER_04 50:23

Yeah, it could not be me. I you'd see me sweat through them. That's the problem.

SPEAKER_02 50:27

I don't too like generally you're fine.

SPEAKER_04 50:30

You don't sweat the way I sweat.

SPEAKER_02 50:31

But I'll just go inside.

SPEAKER_04 50:33

Yeah, well, you have to or you'll die.

SPEAKER_02 50:35

That's true. Well, on that note, rate and review the podcast. Come on, do it. Hit us up, do it on all the all the places, and uh we'll talk to you soon. See you next week.

SPEAKER_04 50:47

Bye bye.

SPEAKER_02 50:48

Bye.